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“The leaflet really talks about some methods people can use to appear to be psychic,” he said. “Some claim to be genuinely psychic, but there are methods some can use to appear to be doing this. “Even if they are not really speaking to the dead, it can appear that they are. I want people to look at the things they are being told, and work out if what they are hearing is real.” Asked if he thinks psychic ability is real, he replied: “I don’t rule it out, but I don’t personally believe that is the case. I’ve not seen any evidence that someone is able to speak to the dead.” Is Mark doing any harm? In the discussion which followed, Spiritualist medium Colin Fry, famous for his numerous TV appearances, refused to be ruffled. He explained that his work helps people and gives them hope. Mark believes people have the right to know the technique used by psychics, and although he’s not calling them liars, he believes fans need to be made aware of both sides. Colin suggested that since Mark has never attended a medium’s demonstration, he does not have the right to criticise. “But I agree with a lot of what Mark says,” added Colin. “I’ve been advocating for a long time that Spiritualist mediums and healers should be registered. So I have no problems with Mark and his people being outside my shows. In fact, he is quite welcome to come in. “My management said you are welcome to come and spend a day with us. You don’t have to tell us what show you are coming to until the day. You can come backstage, see our routine, and how we get ready.” With reference to what Mark called “psychic acts,” Colin explained why he objected to being referred to as a psychic. “I can only speak for myself,” he said, “But I have always objected to being called a psychic. I am a spiritual medium and an ordained minister. I am a registered counsellor.” After the discussion, viewers were asked the question “Do you believe in psychics?” The result of the poll was that 79.59 per cent of those who responded replied “Yes”. You can see the discussion on www.itv.com/thismorning/hot-topics/psychic-discussion-mark-tillbrook-colin-fry |